Monday, September 16, 2013

In the name of God Most Benificent, Most Merciful.
I Thank My Advasary for his response.


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PART I OF VERSE:

Maintainer = Voilent?

No person on earth would think that someone who maintains his family including "wife" & "children" is being voilent! you are joining one word from first sentence to other sentence?

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means."

Meaning:
O men you are physically stronger so you are protector of your women,

You are given more strength and energy so you have to work and maintain your wife.. she is not supposed to work for its your responsibitly if you marry her you have to maintian her all the needs.

Comments:
Not even an insane person will think that this sentence and word "maintain" is voilent!
on the other hand it sets a woman free from duties of earning and puts that on a man that you are responsible for her clothing, eating, loudging! Men are ordered to take care of women. I dont think a single woman on earth will mind this treatment.

PART II OF VERSE:
Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.

Meaning:
 Therefore the righteous women are those [who are] devoutly obedient [to Allah], and guard [themselves from adultary and thier intmcy] in the absence [of husband] which Allah has ordianed to be Guarded!
Comments:
I hope the misunderstanding is cleared! You will think that I am lying its about being obedient to Husband not to Allah.. Here is BOP : http://goo.gl/qWllZI All the Translation of same verse.
PART III OF VERSE:
As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)".
Meaning:

  1. Several Translators have translated word "Udrubu" as show them example! not one two but several

      • Only if she is disloyal! [have affairs or is commiting sins]
      • Only they have ill conduct [she is being voilent and she is wrong]
    • THEN WHAT TO DO? 
      • First Talk to them Politely! and try to convince them from Wrong to Right
      • Leave them in bed! 
    • THEN WHAT? 
      • Leave Her;  Seperate from Them; Striking a temporary parting; admonish them with examples ;Admonish; beat them [symbolically which does not causes harm, lightly & last time]
POINT TO BE NOTED:
Most of the people who wrote it "beat them" have always added "lightly & last time(before divorce)"

WHY? 
Because there is no specific word in english that can explain the nature of beating & what kind of beating is this?? 
Hence if they write word "beat" which is one of several meaning of word they add "symbolically, with a toothbrush, that does not causes harm! lightly & last time".

http://goo.gl/CgJNsL
                • Not every one on earth is wise enough to understand the Holy Scriptures thats why we have commentries on it for ease of understanding

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These are not my words this is what Quran says!


Rephrasing which you did not understood:
Yes Quran does says that goto your wives which ever way you want they are the right person for you to channel your passion feelings love intimecy and everything, because men tend to commit adultry so Quran says Adultry is prohibited for you what ever sexual relationship you want to have its right of your wife that it should be with her only! so I dont think there is something wrong with this verse.


 Rebuttels to Other Arguments:
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http://goo.gl/gaMVkM 

Unlike Christian & Hindu Scriptures where woman is degaraded and spoken about in worse of manners Like Whores & Prostitues & Books speak about "Gentiles as Long & Strong as of Asses & Hourse" Quran says that they will have young spouses!

 
For 3rd Qoutaiton:
Again it speaks about Spouses which will have no lacking in them for Men & Women Alike! : http://goo.gl/gaMVkM Meaning of Word is Spouse.

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Without any second thought you have picked one single Narration out of a Whole Book about Marriage & Love and Titled it as VIEW ON MARRIAGE which is truly a wrong deed!

There is something  called "Science of Narrations" in which several Narrations are placed parallel to see which one is more authentic and when we fine something more authntic then other we reject the weak narration and move forward to strong One.

If you really want to read about Marraige View Read Here:  http://goo.gl/mnFk3R you will know Muhammad(PBUH)'s View about Marraige & Rights of Women!

WrongQoutaiton:http://goo.gl/Fa0K8Z
Its not 'young girl' its 'virgin lady'

I think he is talking about Marrying not Raping Mr. Con.

its baseless to speak like that picking up one single thing which is rejected and secondly. A MASTER KNOWS WHATS BEST FOR HIS PUPILS. A  TEACHER KNOWS ABOUT STUDENTS AND A FATHER 
 ABOUT  HIS SON."Since companion was most of the time with Muhmmmad(PBUH) Its possible that He might have thought  that He can a better relationship of someone of same age so he sugguested HIM!" not to common crowd!

MOREOVER: IF YOU READ THE NARRATION IN ORIGNAL BOOK IT COMES UNDER CATAGORY OF "SALES AND TRADE" http://goo.gl/AJ5OKu it not at all gives Islam's view about Marraige
"YOU ARE MISQOUTING"


H
ere I will state Out of Many Some of...
The Rights of a Muslim Woman


In Islam a Woman has Spiritual, Economical, Social, Educational, Legal and Political Fundamental Rights.


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http://goo.gl/iDwbzp

Right to Lead as Commander: Woman's have such a Right in Islam that Aisha(R.A) was commander of an Army of  ~30,000 Men. http://goo.gl/TGclfM
Her Guarantee is Accepted!: If a woman gives surety to a war-captive or gives him shelter, her guarantee will be accepted

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Right to Choose Husband
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The guardian of the girl whether her father, brother or uncle plays an important role in her marriage such as finding a suitable match for her. But under no circumstance does this allow him to force his choice on her against her wishes. She is free to accept or reject his choice, or make her own choice.(4: 19) “Oh! You who believe, you are forbidden to inherit women against their will!”
A woman named Khansa Bint Khidam once came to the Prophet and complained: "My father has forced me to marry my cousin in order to raise his own status (in the eyes of the people)." The Prophet told her that she was free to dissolve this marriage and choose whomever she wished to marry. She replied, "I accept my father's choice, but my aim was to let the women know that fathers have no right to interfere in the marriage." (Ahmad, Nasa'i and Ibn Majah)

Freedom of Speech : Omar the second Rightly- Guided Caliph. Omar was once standing on the Displaying Untitled 6.pngright was granted to Western women only in 1870s, and the women of India had to wait until 1956 for a right which Muslim women have always taken for granted. 
Dowery & Dower: In Islam Insted of a Woman Man is obligated to give her a gift as Dowery on Marriage unlike most of other religions & Cultures. “Give the women (on marriage) the dower as a free gift”.

Educational Rights:
 “It is obligatory for every Muslim, male or female, to acquire knowledge (Al-Bayhaqi).

 These are Just Some 20% of Books of Rights of Woman in Islam.

If you have any question ask me debate me public or private.

May peace be upon you.